Early Old Model Commercial Production American Eagle Lugers. 1902 Cartridge Counter Luger, serial number 22414. Serial number 22414 is a prime. Pre- production prototype Artillery Luger, serial number 1. Pistole Parabellum. The serial numbers are stamped in the hidden commercial style with no proofs whatsoever on the gun. All the expected component parts are stamped with the two- digit serial number 1. GELADEN stamped extractor and the pre 1. The frame is.

Pistole Parabellum Kyrie 1923 Commercial Luger The 1923 Commercial Luger variation are those Lugers in the commercial serial number range of approximately 73,500 to 96,000 (about 18,000 pistols). These were pistols made in the 1920 Rigs Of Rods Unmarked Police Car Download Youtube there. 's for commercial sale in Germany and elsewhere. Serial number placement is in the commercial ('hidden') style. Safeties will generally be marked 'Gesichert' and extractors 'Geladen.'

Barrels may vary in length from 3 5/8' to 24' or longer, and are usually chambered for the 7.65 Parabellum (.30 Luger), but may be chambered for the 9 mm Parabellum (9 mm Luger). Proof marks are Crown over 'N' (C/N), and may be found on the underside of the barrel, the left of the barrel extension, the left of the breechblock, and the left of the first toggle link. The first toggle link is generally marked with the DWM monogram, and there is the 'V' rear sight on the last toggle link. Frames will have the stock lug, and a grip safety may be present. Longer barrels (longer than four inches) are thought to have been installed by local dealers rather than by DMW. These barrels may or may not be numbered or proofed.

There is considerable variation in the 1923 Commercials. Proof marks may or may not be where they are expected, and all proof marks may or may not be present. Left side of a 1923 Commercial Luger. This specific example is chambered for the 7.65 Parabellum, and has a six-inch barrel.

Note the C/N proof on the left of the barrel extension. Also pictured is the end flap from a current production box of Winchester.30 Luger ammunition. There are also three rounds of ammunition in the picture. From top to bottom, these are: 1) a round of Winchester.30 Luger set so the cartridge headstamp can be seen, 2) a round of Winchester.30 Luger set on its side so it can be seen as a 7.65x21 bottlenecked cartridge, and 3) a round of 7.63x25 Mauser (.30 Mauser) ammunition. I have included the round of 7.63x25 Mauser because people unfamiliar with either Lugers or Mauser C96 'Broomhandles' sometimes confuse the.30 Luger and the.30 Mauser cartridges. Shooters new to.30 Luger chambered pistols have been known to see bargain basement prices on military surplus 7.62x25 and, thinking. Filesmonster Premium Download. 30 Mauser is just another name for.30 Luger, buy this ammunition by the case lot to fire in their Lugers. They are disappointed to find a.30 Mauser cartridge will not chamber in a.30 Luger pistol.

Shooters new to.30 Mauser C96's sometimes make the same mistake in reverse, and buy.30 Luger for use in their C96's. Alas, the.30 Luger cartridge will feed and fire in a.30 Mauser C96 - frequently to the detriment of the C96.

Right side of the same 1923 Commercial Luger. Note the absence of any Imperial Army acceptance or proof marks on the barrel extension.

While the 1923 Commercial variation is usually regarded as being of completely new, post-war manufacture, it is not rare to find scrubbed Great War Luger parts used to assemble 1923 Commercials. This pistol in particular is an example of this. The receiver ring of this pistol's barrel extension shows noticeable thinning on top, indicating something (probably a date) was removed.

This removal was done carefully, and the receiver ring shows a graceful curve - unlike the same part in the 1923 Finnish contract Luger also pictured here in the Owners' Corner. Close-up photograph of the C/N barrel extension proof. Close-up photograph of the 'lazy' C/N proof on the first toggle link. The breechblock is not proofed.

Close-up of the DWM monogram on the first toggle link. Close-up photograph of the frame serial number. The photo was taken with the takedown lever extended into the disassembly position so the serial number on the bottom of the takedown lever is visible. In the commercial serial number placement, the serial numbers on small parts were placed on the side rather than the top of parts, to avoid visually cluttering the graceful lines of the pistol with markings. The six-inch barrel on this specific 1923 Commercial is not proofed, and is marked only with the number '359.' The origin and significance of this number is unknown.

While this number is not related to the pistol's serial number, it is of the same style and placed in the same manner as the barrel number on the 1920 Commercial Artillery also pictured here in the Owner's Corner. The similar number on the 1920 Commercial Artillery does match the pistol's serial number, providing us food for thought and (no doubt some spirited speculation). Here is the US during the 1920's Pacific Arms was known for its importation of Lugers to be sold commercially, and is thought to have furnished and installed many of the longer length barrels found on its Lugers. It is possible this is a Pacific Arms imported Luger.

Note, however, this Luger is not marked 'Germany' as were most of the Lugers made for export from Germany to the US. Close up of the (mismatched) wood magazine bottom on this pistol's magazine. This appears to be the spare magazine (note the '+' sign) to a Great War Imperial Luger, serial number 3161. It is not known whether this magazine was originally delivered with this Luger. Photos Courtesy of Kyrie Ellis.

Luger P-08 9mm Pistol Widely known as the 'Luger' or 'Parabellum', the semiautomatic, recoil-operated Pistole P-08 was based on an 1893 design by American Hugo Borchardt. George Luger adapted Borchardt's original design and considerably refined it in 1900. The resulting improved pistol was accepted into military service in 1908, and remained the standard service pistol of the German Army until the 1938 introduction of the Walther P-38. The Pistole P-08 was a powerful and accurate weapon, although costly to manufacture. Luger (Parabellum) 9MM P-08 Automatic Pistol. The P-08 Luger fires the 9mm Luger/Parabellum (9x19mm) round, one of the world's most popular cartridges for pistol and submachine gun use, including the U.S.

The Olive-Drab.com page linked here describes the. Luger P-08 9MM Pistol The Luger is obsolete today, but still quite attractive to collectors. Its sleek design and its infamous connection to Nazi Germany have been factors in its continued popularity. Thousands of Lugers were brought to the US as souveneirs by American GIs after WW II, and many are still in circulation. World War II Bill Mauldin cartoon from Stars & Stripes.

Original caption: 'Luger, $100. Camera, $150. Iron Cross, $12. It is good to be captured by Americans.' Image © Stars and Stripes. Luger and pistols are often confused with one another, as both were developed and manufactured to be used by the German army during WW I and WW II. Several million pistols were produced by many different makers, in different arsenals, in Germany, Switzerland and England.

In addition, multitudes of commercial versions were manufactured before and after both wars. Luger P-08 9MM Pistol Markings The vast majority of the pistols were stamped with a four-digit serial number.

This number cycle was repeated monthly by the various arsenals, thus making it possible to have between 250 and 300 pistols bearing the same serial number. Distinguishing factors making the identification of each pistol unique are the alpha letter appearing beneath or following the serial number; the year of manufacture; and the individual arsenal/code markings on each pistol.

The serial number, always stamped on the frame, may also appear on the receiver and barrel. If the serial numbers don't match, this indicates the pistol was assembled from parts of several pistols. The last two digits of the original serial number may appear in several places on the gun as a parts number.

Sometimes the same serial number will be stamped in multiple places on the gun, but will only include the letter suffix below the barrel, ahead of the trigger guard. The following chart shows the individual arsenal/code markings and lettering used by the various manufacturers. These markings apply to Lugers as well as Pistols Marking Manufacturer ac Carl Walther byf Mauser Werke S/42 Mauser Werke SVW/45 Mauser Werke 42 Simson & Co. (1920-1936) 42 Mauser & Werke (1937-1940) P-08 Krieghoff HK Krieghoff fzs Krieghoff cyq Spreewerk DWM Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabrik ERFURT Made at government arsenal at Erfurt,Germany prior to 1930 Find More Information on the Internet There are many fine websites that have additional information on this topic, too many to list here and too many to keep up with as they come and go.

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